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Negro Leagues

The rest of our Negro Leagues MLEs: centerfield, right field, and a few more infielders

A few months ago, I left off the Negro Leagues MLEs in the midst of our centerfielders. I’m no longer able to keep up the pace of Negro Leagues MLEs that I had established, but I wanted to give you all the remaining MLEs that I’d constructed. Longer form for the really good players, summaries for the merely good. I’m not including all the snazzy extras this time around, so you’re on your own for that information. But now for Hall of Merit or other purposes, you’ll have all the goods I gots to give.

Below you’ll find a few last centerfielders, right fielders, and a grab bag of infielders. I’ll post a separate final roundup of our moundsmen next time out.

CENTER FIELD

Lazaro Salazar

Lazaro Salazar
Missing data: 1937, 1940

Year Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Ddp Rfield Rpos  RAA   WAA Rrep RAR  WAR
==============================================================================
1932  19  NL CF   190    2    0     0     0    - 1     2   0.2    6    8   0.9 
1933  20  NL CF   280   12    0     0     1    - 1    12   1.4   10   22   2.5
1934  21  NL CF   450  - 3    1     0     1    - 1   - 2  -0.2   15   13   1.3  
1935  22  NL CF   580   18    1     0     1    - 2    18   1.8   20   38   3.8
1936  23  NL CF   580   10    1     0     1    - 2    10   1.0   20   30   3.0
1937  24  NL RF   560   23    1     0     4    - 5    23   2.4   19   42   4.4
1938  25  NL RF   470   34    1     0     3    - 5    34   3.5   16   50   5.2
1939  26  NL RF   540   37    1     0     4    - 5    37   3.8   18   55   5.8
1940  27  NL RF   570   25    1     0     4    - 6    24   2.5   19   44   4.6
1941  28  NL RF   580   17    1     0     4    - 6    16   1.8   20   36   4.0
1942  29  NL RF   600   26    1     0     4    - 6    25   2.9   21   46   5.3
1943  30  NL RF   440   12    1     0     3    - 4    12   1.3   15   27   3.1
1944  31  NL 1B   600   27    1     0     6    - 6    29   3.1   21   49   5.3
1945  32  NL 1B   600   18    1     0     6    - 6    18   1.9   21   39   4.1
1946  33  NL 1B   530   21    1     0     5    - 5    22   2.5   18   40   4.6
1947  34  NL 1B   210    1    0     0     2    - 2     1   0.1    7    8   0.8
1948  35  NL 1B   140    2    0     0     1    - 1     2   0.2    5    7   0.7
1949  36  NL 1B   380   12    1     1     3    - 4    12   1.2   13   25   2.6
1950  37  NL 1B   110    2    0     0     1    - 1     2   0.2    4    6   0.6
1951  38  NL 1B    40    1    0     0     0      0     1   0.1    1    2   0.2
1952  39  NL 1B    80    3    0     0     0    - 1     2   0.3    3    5   0.6
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 8530  299   12     1    56    -68   299  31.7  291  591  63.4

Clint Thomas

Clint Thomas
Missing data: 1927, 1929, 1935

Year Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Ddp Rfield Rpos  RAA  WAA Rrep RAR  WAR
==============================================================================
1920-1937       10260   58   25     0    85    -62   107  10.5 320  427  43.2

Jules Thomas

Jules Thomas

Year Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Ddp Rfield Rpos  RAA  WAA Rrep RAR  WAR
==============================================================================
1908-1925        9090  109   -1     0     7    -67   148  16.2 283  431  48.6

Sam Bennett

Sam Bennett
Missing data: 1918, 1924

Year Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Ddp Rfield Rpos  RAA  WAA Rrep  RAR  WAR
==============================================================================
1912-1923        4750  134   -1     0   -42    -43    48   5.7  148  196  23.1

Lloyd Davenport

Lloyd Davenport
Missing data: 1934, 1949

Year Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Ddp Rfield Rpos  RAA  WAA Rrep RAR  WAR
==============================================================================
1934-1949        6150  39    -1     1    39    -35    42   4.6  192 234  25.5

Felix McLaurin

Felix McLaurin
Missing data: 1948

Year Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Ddp Rfield Rpos  RAA  WAA Rrep RAR  WAR
==============================================================================
1942-1952        4070  59     0     5    16     -6    74   7.8 127  201  21.5

Neil Robinson

Neil Robinson
Missing data: 1935, 1948-1952

Year Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Ddp Rfield Rpos  RAA  WAA Rrep RAR  WAR
==============================================================================
1934-1946        6230   45    1     0    -23   -17    6   0.5   194  200  21.4

Chaney White

Chaney White
Missing data: 1929

Year Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Ddp Rfield Rpos  RAA  WAA Rrep RAR  WAR
==============================================================================
1920-1936        8030  51     -5    0     0    -51    -5  -0.8  250  245  24.7

Tetelo Vargas

Just not enough data…. Pbbbbbt.

RIGHT FIELD

Charlie Blackwell

Charlie Blackwell
Missing data: 1918, 1926, 1927, 1929

Year Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Ddp Rfield Rpos  RAA  WAA Rrep RAR  WAR
==============================================================================
1915-1929        7457  266    6     0    28    -77   223  23.8 232  456  49.5

Charlie Blackwell

Charlie Blackwell
Missing data: 1918, 1926, 1927, 1929

Year Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Ddp Rfield Rpos  RAA  WAA Rrep RAR  WAR
==============================================================================
1915-1929        7457  266    6     0    28    -77   223  23.8 232  456  49.5

Harry Buckner

Harry Buckner

Year Age Lg Pos  PA  Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos  RAA  WAA  Rrep RAR  WAR
================================================================================
1896-1913        8040   259    2     0    43    -95   209  22.7   251  460  49.5

Pancho Coimbre

Not enough data, but we get 20.4 WAR for the 3608 PA we have data for (1940-1945, ages 31-36).

Goose Curry

Goose Curry
Missing data: 1929-1932, 1934, 135
Year Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Ddp Rfield Rpos  RAA  WAA Rrep RAR  WAR
==============================================================================
1928-1945        8620   87   -3     0    -31   -60    -7  -0.8  269  261  27.3

Rap Dixon

Rap Dixon
Missing data: 1927, 1929
Year Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Ddp Rfield Rpos  RAA  WAA Rrep RAR  WAR
==============================================================================
1924-1937        6130  114    8     0     7    -53    76   7.3  191 267  26.8

Heavy Johnson

Heavy Johnson
Missing data: 1918, 1919, 1921, 1927, 1929-1931
Year Age Lg  Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos  RAA   WAA  Rrep RAR   WAR
===========================================================================
1917  22 NL   C  200   13    0    0     1     3    16   2.0    7   23   2.8
1918  23 NL   C  300   19    0    0     1     4    24   2.8   10   34   4.1
1919  24 NL   C  270   16    0    0     1     3    20   2.4    9   30   3.5
1920  25 NL   C  420   22    0    0     2     4    28   3.1   14   42   4.8
1921  26 NL  RF  590   42    0    0    -2   - 6    34   3.4   20   54   5.5
1922  27 NL  RF  570   59    0    0    -2   - 5    52   4.8   19   71   6.8
1923  28 NL  RF  630   49    0    0    -2   - 6    42   4.0   22   63   6.1
1924  29 NL  RF  600   40    0    0    -2   - 6    33   3.3   21   53   5.4
1925  30 NL  RF  610   17    0    0    -2   - 6    10   0.9   21   30   2.9
1926  31 NL  RF  570   30    0    0    -2   - 6    23   2.3   19   42   4.3
1927  32 NL  RF  600   34    0    0    -2   - 6    26   2.6   21   47   4.8
1928  33 NL  RF  540   26    0    0    -1   - 6    19   1.9   18   37   3.8
1929  34 NL  RF  490   30    0    0    -1   - 5    23   2.1   17   40   3.7
1930  35 NL  RF  510   28    0    0    -1   - 5    21   1.9   17   39   3.4
1931  36 NL  RF  460   18    0    0    -1   - 4    12   1.2   16   28   2.9
1932  37 NL  RF  200   -7    0    0    -1   - 2   -10  -1.0    7  - 3  -0.3
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
                7560  436   -3    0   -11   -48   373  37.6  258  631  64.6

Hurley McNair

Hurley McNair
Missing data: 1918, 1919, 1926, 1927
Year Age Lg Pos  PA  Rbat Rbaser Rfield Rpos  RAA   WAA  Rrep RAR   WAR
========================================================================
1910  21 NL  RF  460   21    0     1     - 5   17   1.9   14   31   3.5
1911  22 NL  RF  530   25    0     1     - 6   20   2.1   17   37   3.9
1912  23 NL  RF  590   35    0     1     - 7   30   3.0   18   49   4.9
1913  24 NL  CF  590   28    0     0     - 3   24   2.6   18   43   4.7
1914  25 NL  CF  580   25    0     0     - 3   22   2.5   18   40   4.7
1915  26 NL  RF  580   23    0     1     - 7   18   2.1   18   36   4.4
1916  27 NL  CF  580   22    0     0     - 3   19   2.3   18   37   4.6
1917  28 NL  LF  540   14    0     1     - 6    9   1.1   17   26   3.2
1918  29 NL  LF  480   18    0     3     - 5   16   1.9   15   31   3.8
1919  30 NL  LF  530   22    0     3     - 6   19   2.2   17   35   4.3
1920  31 NL  LF  620   27    0     3     - 7   23   2.6   19   43   4.9
1921  32 NL  LF  640   32    0     3     - 6   29   3.0   20   49   5.1
1922  33 NL  LF  570   39    0     3     - 5   36   3.4   18   54   5.2
1923  34 NL  LF  560   23    0     3     - 5   20   2.0   17   38   3.7
1924  35 NL  RF  610   31    0     1     - 6   27   2.7   19   46   4.7
1925  36 NL  RF  480   16    0     1     - 5   13   1.2   15   28   2.6
1926  37 NL  RF  410   16    0     1     - 4   13   1.3   13   26   2.7
1927  38 NL  RF  360   13    0     1     - 3   10   1.0   11   21   2.2
1928  39 NL  LF  300    6    0     2     - 3    5   0.5    9   14   1.4
------------------------------------------------------------------------
               10010  436    0    30     -96  370  39.6  312  682  74.5

Luis Padron

Luis Padron
Missing data: 1917
Year Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Ddp Rfield Rpos  RAA  WAA Rrep RAR  WAR
==============================================================================
1902-1913        4800  18     3     0    -4     -7    10  1.4  164  174  20.5

Emilio Palomino

Emilio Palomino

Year Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Ddp Rfield Rpos  RAA  WAA Rrep RAR  WAR
==============================================================================
1903-1912        4700  94     1     0    -5    -54    36  4.1  146  183  21.2

Eustaquio Pedroso

Eustaquio Pedroso
Missing data: 1925
Year Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Ddp Rfield Rpos  RAA  WAA Rrep RAR  WAR
==============================================================================
1907-1924        8120  38    - 3    0    -52   -66   -82  -9.8  277 195  22.3

Suitcase Simpson

Suitcase Simpson
Missing data: 1948, 1949
Year Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Ddp Rfield Rpos  RAA  WAA Rrep RAR  WAR
==============================================================================
1946-1959        6295  33     -8    2    -25    -62  -60  -6.3  196 139  13.9

Chino Smith

Chino Smith
Missing data: 1929
Year Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Ddp Rfield Rpos  RAA  WAA Rrep RAR  WAR
==============================================================================
1925-1931        4440  224    -6    0    29    -43   204  19.6  138  342 33.3

Ed Stone

Ed Stone
Missing data: 1948-1950
Year Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Ddp Rfield Rpos  RAA  WAA Rrep RAR  WAR
==============================================================================
1933-1950        9160  128    2     0     8    -85    53   5.5  285 338  36.4

Ted Strong

Ted Strong 
Missing data: 1918, 1926, 1927, 1929
Year Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Ddp Rfield Rpos  RAA  WAA Rrep RAR  WAR
==============================================================================
1938-1951        5900  195   -2     1    -7    -15   172  18.1  184  356  38.0

Bob Thurman

Bob Thurman
Missing data: 1948, 1949, 1953, 1954
Year Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Ddp Rfield Rpos  RAA  WAA Rrep RAR  WAR
==============================================================================
1946-1959        4925  78     3     3    -9    -47    27   2.8  159 186  19.3

Bob Wilson

Bob Wilson
Missing data: 1948-1951
Year Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Ddp Rfield Rpos  RAA  WAA Rrep RAR  WAR
==============================================================================
1947-1960        7070  97    4     -3     0    -27    72  7.4  220  292  30.8

Burnis “Wild Bill” Wright

Wild Bill Wright
Year Age Lg Pos  PA  Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos  RAA   WAA  Rrep RAR   WAR
============================================================================
1933  19 NL  RF  190    2    0    0      1   - 2    2   0.2    6    8   0.9
1934  20 NL  RF  380    1    1    0      3   - 4    0   0.0   12   12   1.3
1935  21 NL  CF  490    9    1    0     -1   - 1    8   0.8   15   23   2.3
1936  22 NL  CF  560   15    1    0     -1   - 2   13   1.3   17   31   3.1
1937  23 NL  CF  570   33    1    0     -1   - 2   31   3.2   18   49   5.0
1938  24 NL  RF  560   14    1    0      4   - 5   14   1.5   17   32   3.3
1939  25 NL  RF  570   19    1    0      4   - 6   18   1.9   18   36   3.8
1940  26 NL  RF  620   27    1    0      5   - 6   27   2.8   19   46   4.9
1941  27 NL  RF  630   24    1    0      5   - 6   24   2.6   20   44   4.7
1942  28 NL  RF  580   16    1    0      4   - 6   15   1.8   18   34   3.9
1943  29 NL  RF  530   27    1    0      4   - 6   27   3.0   17   43   5.0
1944  30 NL  RF  620   26    1    0      5   - 5   26   2.8   19   45   4.9
1945  31 NL  RF  590   25    1    0      4   - 6   25   2.6   18   43   4.6
1946  32 NL  RF  550   21    1    0      4   - 6   21   2.3   17   38   4.3
1947  33 NL  RF  400    8    1    0      3   - 5    8   0.8   12   20   2.1
1948  34 NL  RF  550   14    1    1      4   - 4   15   1.5   17   32   3.3
1949  35 NL  RF  610   10    1    1      4   - 6   11   1.1   19   30   3.1
1950  36 NL  RF  510   13    1    1      4   - 5   14   1.4   16   30   3.0
1951  37 NL  RF  380   21    1    1      3   - 4   21   2.2   12   33   3.4
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
                9890  324   19    4     57   -85  319  33.8  308  628  67.1

CATCHER

Bill Cash

Bill Cash
Missing data: 1948-1949, 1951-1956
Year Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Ddp Rfield Rpos  RAA  WAA Rrep RAR  WAR
==============================================================================
1943-1956        6000  98     -4   -4    13     44   146  15.2  187  333  35.3

Tommie Dukes

Tommie Dukes
Missing data: 1929-1932, 1943
Year Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Ddp Rfield Rpos  RAA  WAA Rrep RAR  WAR
==============================================================================
1928-1945        7110  16    -9     0     0     49    56   5.8  222  277 29.2

FIRST BASE

Robert “High Pockets” Hudspeth

Robert Hudspeth
Missing data: 1927, 1929, 1931
Year Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Ddp Rfield Rpos  RAA  WAA Rrep RAR  WAR
==============================================================================
1943-1956        5870  73     -7    0   -21    -55   -11  -1.0  183  172  17.5

SECOND BASE

Sammy T. Hughes

Sammy T. Hughes
Year Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Ddp Rfield Rpos  RAA  WAA Rrep RAR  WAR
==============================================================================
1932-1946        5670  87     1     0   -45     45    87  9.1  177  264  28.1

SHORTSTOP

Frank Forbes

Frank Forbes
Year Age Lg Pos  PA Rbat Rbaser Ddp Rfield Rpos  RAA  WAA Rrep RAR  WAR
==============================================================================
1913-1919        2530  30     1     0    26     36    93  11.2  79  171  20.9

Next week, we trot out the guy Irvin Brooks replaced in the Brooklyn lineup, a guy who may be known to readers of the Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract, and Sam “Jet” Jethroe.

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Discussion

6 thoughts on “The rest of our Negro Leagues MLEs: centerfield, right field, and a few more infielders

  1. Is it accurate that you are not missing any data on Wild Bill Wright?

    Posted by Carl Goetz | November 2, 2018, 9:45 am
    • Not precisely. We have data from every season of his career on offense. So there are no huge gaps. We don’t have defense data for about 30-40% of his career.

      Generally no Negro Leagues candidate will be 100% fully complete data wise perhaps ever. So by missing data, I’m talking in a relative and general sense.

      Posted by eric | November 2, 2018, 9:53 am
  2. Makes sense. Wright seems to be one to take seriously as a candidate.

    Posted by Carl Goetz | November 2, 2018, 2:42 pm
    • Depends on how much you believe in his defense. Even if I merely halve it, he falls below my personal in/out line. And +55 runs is an extreme total for any RF, let alone one for whom we have incomplete data. The hitting, however, I feel solid on.

      Posted by eric | November 2, 2018, 2:44 pm
  3. Thanks for the updates Eric, Hurley McNair at 74.5 WAR and 64% confidence is a fine candidate too.

    Is the confidence brought down by missing pa?
    His defense is hopefully less of an issue than wright, as you credit him with half the wins.

    Posted by Ryan Marchand | November 2, 2018, 5:26 pm

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